Sunday, January 27, 2008

Slow Eddie


I remember talking to Franchise a few weeks ago in an interview over at Jarry Park after Paulie Malignaggi beat Herman Ngoudjo, the Cameroonian by way of Quebec. Franchise is from Montreal (as his site name would indicate), and he roots hard for all fighters from the Great White North. When we talked about the Malignaggi/Ngoudjo bout, I could hear in his voice that special brand of disappointment that comes after you've seen a boxer leave something in the ring in a fight that he might have won if only he'd pushed his advantage just a little harder.

It's a disappointment that I feel this morning after yesterday's Alexander Povetkin/Eddie Chambers bout in Germany, which Povetkin won by a hard-earned unanimous decision. My disappointment is tempered somewhat by the very present feeling that that neither of these guys would have a chance in hell against Klitschko, a sentiment echoed in the post-fight press conference by none other than Povetkin himself, who said, "I will have to do a lot of work on myself before I fight Wladimir Klitschko." Klitschko, the current IBF champ, most likely will be Povetkin's next opponent provided that Wlad beats Sultan Ibragimov in the February 23rd heavyweight unification bout at the Garden.

On the whole, Povetkin can't come out of this victory feeling too enthused, although credit him with the heart of a lion despite the fact that the edge in true boxing talent clearly resided with his opponent last night. I had Chambers (born in Pittsburgh, fights out of Philadelphia) winning four of the first five rounds simply on the basis of his lightning-quick and clean counter-punching that lit up the Russian like a pasty, flabby Christmas tree. By the fifth round, Povetkin's left eye was rapidly closing and both eyes were purpled with bruises. I thought, sheesh, I never would have imagined it would be so easy for Eddie and I admit at that point I started fantasizing about having a Philly boy fight for the heavyweight title once again and devising strategies in my mind for how Eddie might cope with Klitschko's size. Povetkin was working much harder than Chambers to no avail and breathing in his corner in between rounds as if at any moment he might collapse and die. I really don't think I've ever seen a fighter in such bad condition as Povetkin looked in his corner throughout the entire fight.

Nevertheless, starting around the sixth, the Russian amazingly managed to find another gear, and that proved the difference the rest of the way. It was a volume victory, end of story. He outworked Chambers, was first, second and third in every exchange with a breathless output that rarely scored to great effect, but flummoxed Eddie in that "the best defense is a relentless offense" way of boxing. More than anything, he created an appearance of a complete mismatch for the judges. Come the eleventh and twelfth rounds, Povetkin was throwing 70-80 punches per frame to Chambers 15-16. It was very frustrating to watch. A few times I said out loud to the television, "son you can't win if you don't punch."

Of course, Chambers' trainer and father Eddie Sr. along with Buddy McGirt (brought in to work with Eddie for this bout) were frustrated as well, and pleaded with Eddie to step it up, but he continued to look helpless in there, unable to mount a significant charge in any of the late rounds. In his defense, I have to point out that it didn't seem to me a question of will so much as one of tactics. Povetkin was working like freaking Kassim Ouma in there, putting out an almost unprecedented punch-rate for a heavyweight fighter, and Chambers simply had no idea how to find his openings against such an onslaught.

In the end, his main problem was one that he couldn't control - he's just not big enough. He landed some great punches yesterday, head-snapping, sweat-spraying straight right hands directly on the button, five or six of them in the first four rounds that were without question the best punches of the fight. If he had some size and weight on those shots, they most likely would have turned the tide in his favor and slowed his opponent, the banderillas that prefigure the sword. But Povetkin needed not much more than a brisk headshake or two to put them in the past. After the fight, Max Kellerman suggested that Chambers' best move would be to move down to cruiserweight, a thought I admit I was having myself for most of the fight. Coming in around 208 or so just does not make you a heavyweight in this day and age, and Eddie Chambers is too talented with his hands and has too many natural boxing instincts to flounder in the sport simply for being too small.

As for Povetkin, I'm not sure what to think. It's hard to question his power based on the Chambers fight, because he never really rocked Eddie with a clean blow. A good eighty percent of his punches were blocked, and even the ones that landed seemed to be partially blocked. He moves well for a heavyweight, and his heart... what can you say about his heart? He was completely outclassed in there yesterday and willed himself to victory by punching like a featherweight on meth, a superhuman effort that literally seemed like it might kill him at times. I tip my hat to him on that score, but I can't help but think of those big right hands that Eddie landed on him early, and think about how the night might have gone if it was Klitschko landing those big right hands.

17 Comments:

Anonymous Trickster said...

Was impressed by Chambers in the first four or five rounds. His defense was great, if he just had a bit more popp.

For Povetkin, I think the best idea would be to let Thompson (Ibragimov-Title-Challenger, is it WBC?, not sure) take Klitschko first and get one or two bouts more against good competition, otherwise he will be in for a big beating... Well he will be anyway.

One last question, can someone please explain to me how the south american judge could score this bout 119-109? I mean that is just hilarious. If he'd be Russian or German I'd accept a home-town judge.. but a south american? Are people like that paid, or are they just blind? (honest question, I was really really stunned)

2:30 PM  
Blogger Large said...

Trickster - I agree with you that was a ridiculous score. I certainly felt like 116-112 was more like it. Then again, you can't discount what a frenetic work-rate can do to the appearance of how a fight is going. A lot of people thought Hatton was beating Floyd in the early rounds of their fight. Even in the early round last night when Eddie was potshotting Povetkin with big shots, Povetkin was out-hustling him considerably. On that score, I really give Povetkin a lot of credit. He saw what he had to do and mustered the herculean effort to do it. I mean, yo, were you checking him in the corner? Holms needed the iron lung man. It was ridiculous.

I wonder if Povetkin will put off the fight with Klitschko. I doubt it. It's supposed to be the next bout for the IBF title - that's the point of the whole elimination tournament - and presuming Klitschko beats Ibragimov (which I think is a virtual lock) Povetkin will be next on his list. I had to give Povetkin credit on that count too last night, though - openly admitting that he's not ready for Klitschko. He's definitely not - anyone could see that.

2:45 PM  
Blogger shoefly said...

Chambers seemed like he remembered after the fifth round that he left his stove on at home and couldn't stop thinking about it. To be honest I just wish HBO would quit spending on these heavyweight fights until the division merits it. If they put some of that money into the cruiserweight or Jnr. Middle or anything we could get some great fights. These guys are like overweight toughman competitors. Get it off my screen.

3:28 PM  
Blogger Large said...

I don't know, Shoefly. I thought both fighters were very impressive in different ways last night. I admit that Chambers shit the bed after about the fifth last night, but the effort that Povetkin laid on him was startling for a heavyweight and I just don't think he knew how to respond. I have a feeling that Eddie Chambers is a future cruiserweight champ.

Plus, it was an entertaining fight, and it was free. What other fight would you have rather seen last night?

4:20 PM  
Blogger Joaquin "The Rooster" Ochoa said...

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6:40 AM  
Blogger Joaquin "The Rooster" Ochoa said...

I love the title of this post...Slow Eddie. WTF in those last rounds...your corner tells you that you are way behind and you need a KO...and you sit there and just get poped shot...serious, it was a sad fight. Go for broke is what I would have been yelling or I will throw in the towl.

I love when his corner was like, you have to stop playing basketball and chasing those women.

6:42 AM  
Blogger Large said...

Yeah yeah Rooster I forgot about that - that shit was hilarious. That was his dad, right? "It's a lot of things Eddie, it's the basketball, it's the women..." Oh man, poor Eddie. I'm telling you, get that kid to lose ten pounds and let him kick the shit out of some cruiserweights, cause he would do it. And he definitely has ten pounds to lose on that body.

Was it Lennox who was comparing Eddie to Jersey Joe Walcott or did I imagine that? I was definitely seeing some Jersey Joe shit in there, the upright, calculating approach, very mobile upper body to slip punches (although Eddie bails out too much - gave him a lot of problems with Povetkin - with a guy throwing that many shots once you start moving backwards you're in constant retreat). I tell you - they worship the myth of Jersey Joe in Philly - he was a Camden guy. BHop is obsessed with Joe Walcott, brings him up all the time.

8:08 AM  
Blogger Joaquin "The Rooster" Ochoa said...

Yes, I loved that about Lennox...he is getting better as an announcer as time goes on. I like when they were talking to him after the fight he was putting up his hands and shadow boxing a bit. It seems like Lewis wants to get back into the Ring...??? Might be interesting.

12:44 PM  
Blogger Joaquin "The Rooster" Ochoa said...

Large,

How do you feel about that site kind of making you take off that line about Randell Cunningham? I mean you are a NYC writer...how they going to Bible Belt you?

12:45 PM  
Blogger Large said...

You know Rooster, that Sporting Blog gig is good for me, and my NYC-osity has gotten me in a lot of trouble in the past, I have to confess. I was surprised, because as I pointed out in a comment, it's certainly not beyond anything you would see regularly on the Simpsons. But they edited it and I was like, whaddev. I really wasn't prepared to live or die over a fluff piece about Quarterbackin Mackadociousness.

12:52 PM  
Anonymous pavlik_fan said...

pretty sure Eddie Sr. was complaining about basketball and swimming, not women. sounded (and looked) like Jr. wasn't in the gym enough.

1:56 PM  
Blogger Large said...

Swimming? Damn. You'd think he would get props for swimming - swimming's good for fighters.

I agree that Eddie's body looked bad, no doubt, but yo, he firms that shit up and he's a cruiserweight. He's never going to be able to punch with them big boys anyway.

2:35 PM  
Blogger Tim -- [email protected] said...

Once again we think alike: Klitschko lands those same shots (granted, he's not as fast as Chambers) and Povetkin's done for the night.

I think Chambers is a better cruiserweight, but it's not like he's out of his league at heavyweight. He just needs to punch more, or get that killer instinct, and what have you. He'd have the same problem at cruiserweight, I'm guessing.

2:42 PM  
Anonymous pavlik_fan said...

swimming is a good complement to actual training, sure. but it's not a substitute-- that's the point Sr. was stressing, i think.

3:14 PM  
Anonymous carey said...

I actually turned the fight off after the 11th once the outcome had been clearly decided. Man, that was some frustrating shit to watch.

Povetkin's performance really impressed me though. He put his balls on display as the fight wore on, and the process he made a fan of me. Sure, Klitschko will have his way with him right now, but (to me anyway) that was secondary to the will he showed.

You often hear fighters talk about being "ready to die in the ring if that's what it takes" etc., but seing the way he picked up the intensity later in the fight despite the agony he appeared to be in between rounds, he actually seemed like one of the fighters who literally would do whatever it takes. For that reason alone I'll plunk down cash (if need be) for his future fights. If nothing else, at least they'll be interesting.

3:33 PM  
Blogger Joaquin "The Rooster" Ochoa said...

Carey, well said. I thought his heart in the last three rounds showed me a lot. I wouldn't bet against the kid...can't measure heart.

Large, I'm laughing that they took that line off. I think it is good that you write for other outlets as long as they pay you in full $$$. Also, don't forget your home here at NOMAS where everyone can keep it real!! Holla!

9:52 AM  
Blogger Large said...

Don't worry Rooster. I know which side my bread it buttered on.

10:45 AM  

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