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June 18th, 2008

The Undercard: Gary “Kid” Stark Jr.

No Masios,

Alright we got the blog operational and now I figured out how to get the comments settings right so you’re lost gems are back from the abyss. Please fire at will now there will be no more problems on that score.

And since you’ve suffered the greivous loss of your words, we thought someone else’s suffering might cheer you up. If you’re into Schadenfreude Boxing Cinema, these jammies right here are classics.

Without further adieu, here is Staten Island’s Gary “Kid” Stark Jr. on the night of his rematch against Andres Ledesma, the hard-hitting Colombian who stunned Stark with a fifth round KO in May of 2007.

Part One: Rematch

Part Two: Lumps

In the coming weeks, we will also be featuring the Undercards on No Mas TV with a few added features and way higher quality resolution. Until then, we’ll always have youtube.

June 13th, 2008

Cinderella, you ain’t so fine

posted by Large

Unlike most sports debates, the debate over which fight constitutes the biggest upset in boxing history is one in which most people at least agree on the major contenders. Whichever you deem to be number one probably depends on your age and level of interest in the sport, but no doubt the fight you would choose comes from the list below:

  • Braddock over Baer – 1935
  • Schmeling over Louis – 1936
  • Ali over Liston – 1964
  • Ali over Foreman – 1974
  • Spinks over Ali – 1978
  • Douglas over Tyson – 1990
Being of the Tyson era, I must say that it’s hard for me to imagine not having Douglas/Tyson on top of your upset list. To me it remains about the most shocking thing that ever happened in sports, period. But then I remember as a kid the absolute shock and dismay of learning, the next morning, that Muhammad Ali had lost to Leon Spinks, this at a time when Ali was not an athlete to me so much as a superhero. I had a similar response to Superman getting his ass kicked by General Zod’s posse in Superman II.
Of course, when you talk to your cigar-chompers, you’ll hear, with a hint of genuine disdain still lurking in their voice, that they would have bet on the world exploding before they would have bet on Cassius Clay to beat Sonny Liston.
And then there are the real old-timers who will start talking about Jim Braddock (that’s him in the shot above, taking a big wet one from none other than Joe D… yes indeedy, Russell Crowe he weren’t).
Seventy-three years ago today, The Cinderella Man earned his moniker, as Braddock beat Max Baer for the heavyweight title. If Baer wasn’t exactly a Tyson-quality champion, Braddock was more Buster Douglas than Douglas ever was, a longshot longshoreman who had 25 losses on his record (and a semi-retirement to boot) when he stepped into the ring against Madcap Maxie.
But look, I don’t need to tell you this story. You’ve seen Cinderella Man – you know the deal. The last two rounds of the actual fight are below, and if you’ve never seen it, well, you’ll quickly gather that on the whole it wasn’t quite as scintillating as its cinematic doppleganger would have you believe. In fact, it’s kind of amazing to watch these two skinnyass white boys standing in there with their hands lower than Prince Naseem stumbling around like drunks in between wide, looping haymakers that couldn’t hit the wide side of a Dead show. And people say the heavyweight division is in sorry shape today. I tell you something – James Toney would knock either of these bitches out in under six rounds.

June 12th, 2008

Slouching towards Pacquiao… to Retire

posted by Large

It appears that the Oscar De La Hoya farewell-year drama is proceeding towards an inevitable one-fight conclusion with Manny Pacquiao. Awful as it is, it just makes too much dollars-and-sense for it not to happen.

Oscar has made one thing patently clear in his recent escapades in the ring – the smaller his opponent the better. Of course, you can give him the benefit of the doubt on that score by saying, “hey Large, look, Oscar wants to fight big names and all the really big names right now are in the lower weight classes.” That’s fair I guess, although let’s be clear about this – Oscar’s natural fighting weight right now is clearly 154, and he has to work hard to make that. So in dipping to 147 (and even one, or in Pacquiao’s case, three weight classes below that) he’s moving down in weight considerably.
So if the man really wanted a challenge, why wouldn’t he move up rather than down? And fight who, you ask? Well, what about Kelly Pavlik? Oscar has fought at 160 before. Granted, it didn’t go that well for him, but hell, he’s older now and much more motivated, not to mention naturally bigger. Pavlik is one of the most exciting and fastest rising stars of the sport, and no doubt a fight with Kelly would be a gigantic PPV attraction.

Or what about challenging his business-partner Bernard and trying to avenge one of his most ignominious defeats? You telling me BHop wouldn’t get his ass down to 160 in a heartbeat to fight Oscar right now? You telling me they couldn’t fabricate some weird dust-up between them in the Golden Boy ranks and turn it into a fight for pride that would generate ridiculous pay-per-view dollars? Say what you will about that idea but it’s hard to deny the fact that there’s infinitely more reason, more narrative, to that fight than a bout between Oscar and Ricky Hatton or Manny Pacquiao.

But obviously, Oscar isn’t going to fight Hopkins or Pavlik. I only bring them up to say that in going one, two, three weight classes under his natural weight, Oscar can’t entirely hide behind the defense of “that’s where the only good fights are.” Part of the explanation has to be assessed as what we all know it to be – Oscar doesn’t want to get hurt or take much of a risk at this stage of his career.
And that’s what makes me think it almost certain that we’ll see him fight Pacquiao this fall at a catchweight of 150. Hatton doesn’t want him (with the preposterous excuse of “I can’t get ready that quickly” – for more of my thoughts on that, check this piece at The Sporting Blog). He most certainly doesn’t want Winky Wright (poor, deluded Winky). And though he makes noise about it every now and then, something tells me he doesn’t actually want the winner of Cotto/Margo either, just on the pure “I don’t want to get my pretty face smashed in” line of inquiry.

Who does that leave who is remotely in Oscar’s stratosphere? It almost seems like the Pacquiao fight HAS to happen right now for ODLH, because there’s no one else who can fill his dance card to his own satisfaction. Pac Man is perfect fodder for Oscar – small but with the reputation of being an assassin, as well as being a very big name with a huge PPV upside (what’s more – surprise surprise – Pac’s trainer, and former Oscar mercenary, Freddie Roach, thinks Manny can win). The only thing that was lacking in this potential matchup is a narrative, a “why?” other than the obvious (loot), and on that score Ring Magazine may have unwittingly solved the problem with its announcement yesterday that with the retirement of Money May (Not), it has elevated Pacquiao to the number-one spot in it’s pound-for-pound rankings.

That right there, that’s the hook. Oscar was going to fight Floyd, the uncontested pound-for-pound king, but Floyd picked up his marbles and went home. So now, well, he has to fight the new pound-for-pound king, because, as he’s always said, he only wants to fight the best and give the fans the fights they deserve.

It’s not bad, it works. What’s more, it will probably be a more entertaining affair than a rematch with Money. The only potential wrench in the works is if Pacquiao opts for a bout with Ricky Hatton instead, a fight that Manny is on record as saying that he would like to make for this September. Something tells me, though, that the Golden Boy forces will make sure that doesn’t happen. Check this story from Boxing Scene where Golden Boy CEO Richard Schaefer says that a Hatton/Pacquiao matchup would be an all-time great fight (a dubious claim, but whatever), but adds that it’s unlikely such a fight will happen this year, because Ricky has that showdown with Paulie Malignaggi that the world is clamoring for. And, look, there’s just no way on God’s green earth that Ricky could ever get out of that fight, not with a towering force in the world of boxing like Paulie Freakin Malignaggi on the contract. Nope, can’t happen, sorry. Pacquiao will just have to look elsewhere this fall. I wonder who’s available…

June 10th, 2008

Large and Don King: A Meeting of the Minds

posted by Large

As you are probably aware out there in No Masylvania, Don King’s new video game, Prizefighter, drops this week, a game that purports to take you outside the ring and into the seamy backrooms of the boxing biz. I recently interviewed King for The Sporting Blog and though what I got from The Donald was pretty much his standard Boilerplate of Bluster, there were some gems thrown in there. To wit, consider this nugget: “Irrespective and irregardless of whether you put on boxing gloves, you’re still fighting in the struggle of life for upward mobility and elevation and academic redeeming factors.”

Academic redeeming factors? Don’t stop him, he’s on a roll.

“I Have Great Respect for the Psyche of Human Beings”: An Interview with Don King (The Sporting Blog)

June 8th, 2008

Two undercards, four southpaws, two first-round KO’s

posted by Large


Four fights of consequence last night, and only one of them went according to plan – as expected, Kelly Pavlik out and out destructificated Gary Lockett and laid a serious claim for an upgrade on the rapidly changing pound-for-pound list.

Otherwise, however, on the same day that Big Brown went way down, there were three surprises in the boxing ring as well, and none more so to me than Paul Williams’ first-round TKO of Carlos Quintana.

As far as analyzing that bout goes, there’s not a hell of a lot to say. Quintana got caught with a big shot and tried to survive by pushing forward and hanging on. Williams got him a few more times and he took a long walk down queer street. He never made it back.

It was stunning turn-around from the first fight between these two, when Quintana gave Williams a boxing lesson for 12 rounds and derailed the Paul Williams’ express that at the time looked bound for bigger and better things. Now that train seems back on the track, and one place I have to imagine it won’t be stopping is the station known as Carlos Quintana Trilogy Land. Smart money says The Punisher wants to put as much space between him and his Quintana nightmare as possible so he can turn his thoughts to another Puerto Rican. Is a Cotto fight out of the question for Williams? I wonder. Of course, with the retirement (?) of Money May Not, suddenly it seems like Cotto has rocketed to the top of ODLH’s dance card.

And speaking of Puerto Ricans from Caguas… did anyone out there predict Juan Manuel Lopez knocking out Daniel Ponce de Leon in the first round? First of all, Sir Ponce has never even been down, let alone out. Secondly, he’s a bit of a banger himself. Me, I saw this going deep with heavy damage accrued on both sides. Never did I expect such a succinct conclusion, and if you’d told me that someone was going out in the first, I would have laid down a lot of dough that it would be Lopez.

So much for my once ballyhooed prognostificating skills. Lopez now seems like he can get into the Israel Vasquez sweepstakes. He also seems like the next big-time Puerto Rican sensation.

As for Sergio Mora’s victory over Vernon Forrest, it was well-earned. He worked hard for it, although Vernon certainly didn’t look like he had a lot in the tank. You have wonder have much further the Viper can go with his career. Who is he going to fight now? This loss definitely puts him out of television territory unless he can find himself an up-and-comer to play opponent to on Friday Night Fights.

Mora, meanwhile, now has Oscar in his sights for an all-East L.A. smackdown. He called out De La Hoya after the fight in about the most respectful fashion that a calling-out can be done. He might as well have sang him “I Who Have Nothing.” I guess with the Mayweather announcement, everybody is going to be lining up to fight the Golden Boy. In fact, I’m calling out Oscar right now. You hear that, Oscar, you bitch. Let’s fight.

June 6th, 2008

Money May Not

posted by Large

Shocking news just crossed the desk here at No Mas, courtesy of our old friend The Franchise, who is now manning the helm over at mmarated.com.

The news is this – Floyd Mayweather just announced his retirement via email to the media. Here’s the full text of the message:

Dear Media:

It is with a heavy heart that I write you this message today. I have decided to permanently retire from boxing. This decision was not an easy one for me to make as boxing is all I have done since I was a child. However, these past few years have been extremely difficult for me to find the desire and joy to continue in the sport.

I have said numerous times and after several of my fights over the past two years that I might not fight again. At the same time, I loved competing and winning and also wanted to continue my career for the fans, knowing they were there for me and enjoyed watching me fight. However, after many sleepless nights and intense soul-searching I realized I could no longer base my decision on anything but my own personal happiness, which I no longer could find. So I have finally made up my mind, spoken to my family, particularly my mother, and made my decision.

I am sorry I have to leave the sport at this time, knowing I still have my God-given abilities to succeed and future multi-million dollar paydays ahead, including the one right around the corner. But there comes a time when money doesn’t matter. I just can’t do it anymore. I have found a peace with my decision that I have not felt in a long time.

Finally, I want to personally thank all of my fans for their loyalty and dedication as my career comes to a close. I always believed that their enthusiasm and support helped carry me to victory with every fight I ever had.

It was a great joy to have fought for all of you. Now I hope you understand my decision and wish me well with the rest of my life.

Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Now I know, I know, Lil Floyd has never been shy about retiring. He’s done it before, he’ll do it again. If I had to wager right this very moment as to whether or not we’ll be seeing him in the ring again, I would lay down a respectable amount on the “yes” vote. The timing of this announcement can be interpreted in a number of fashions, but the one that leaps to my mind is one that is never far from the mind of Money May – money.

I think back to the beginning of the year when Dmitriy Salita was on Oscar’s shortlist for a fight in May and I discussed the prospect with Dmitriy’s attorney, Kurt Emhoff. “When Oscar comes calling,” Kurt told me, “you listen.” Now, of course, Floyd occupies a quite different galaxy of the boxing stratosphere than Salita, but the point is this – it’s been years now that Oscar has dictated the terms in just about anything he wanted to do in relation to the sport of boxing. You pretty much have to go back to the Tito Trinidad fight in ’99 to find an opponent who had anywhere near Oscar’s q-factor.

Coming off last May’s bout with Oscar, however, Floyd has gone to great lengths to build his q in to a Q – Dancing with the Stars, NBA Celebrity All-Star Game, and of course, lest you’ve forgotten about it already (did that actually happen), Wrestlemania. You factor in the success of the Hatton PPV and no doubt Money May is feeling like he’s gold to bargain on equal footing with The Golden Boy.

No doubt The Golden Boy disagrees. Round about the time of the Stevie Forbes fight was the first time I noticed a crack in the inevitability of Oscar/Floyd II, when Oscar and his people started talking to the press about the fact that Floyd hadn’t signed on the dotted line yet and that they weren’t worried about it, because if he backed away they would get Pacquiao, and hell, they might do that anyway. There was clearly a little brinksmanship going with the negotiations at that point, and this is clearly the next salvo – Floyd demonstrating, like any experienced haggler, that he’s more than able to put his wallet back in his pocket and go home.

Maybe it’s real, maybe it’s legit, but myself, I sincerely doubt that this will be the end of it. There’s just too much loot at stake for both parties. Maybe the overwhelming bad press that greeted the prospect of a Mayweather/De La Hoya rematch finally won out and both parties rethought their strategies. Maybe the game now is (depending on a Cotto victory over Margo – one hell of a big if) an Oscar/Cotto fight in the fall with Floyd taking the winner of that.

But somehow I doubt that too. With all the potential props floating around out there, I’m still taking “Floyd/Oscar II” as the most likely outcome of all this scuttlebutt about, well, “Floyd/Oscar II.”