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December 22nd, 2007

The Final Frontier

No Masians, I ask you, what are your thoughts about Floyd Mayweather’s potential jump into the octagon? It’s a revolutionary concept, and certainly ironic that the news was floated to the media on the very same day that we crowned him as The No Mas Fighter of the Year.

As for myself, I will offer just a few thoughts. I like MMA and consider the growth of the sport to be good for boxing – I’ve always thought the pissing-contest debates about the octagon versus the squared circle were just so much keyboard-tapping and gum-flapping. I don’t follow MMA with any regularity and I admit that when I do watch it, my enjoyment does not begin to approach my enjoyment of a good boxing match. But I’m not sure that fact is even relevant – I don’t enjoy most movies as much as I do a good boxing match either, but I still go to the movies. A good MMA fight is an awesome sight and I have no doubts that the sport is here to stay and only will continue to grow in leaps and bounds until it is a money-making enterprise to rival and even surpass boxing. To that end, as most of you remember, I was very invested in having regular coverage of it here on No Mas, and all-too-briefly that was the case with our crack correspondent, The Franchise. Chise, however, now has his own site, jarrypark.com, devoted to the combat arts of all stripes, a site that is pretty quickly getting a lot of attention as one of the best fonts of MMA and wrestling information on the web, not to mention a place where one can hear one Mr. Large flap his gums on a regular basis.

Basically, though I am far too much of a dilettante to call myself a fan, I am definitely an MMA supporter, and so, unlike many boxing purists I suspect, I have no problem with the idea of Floyd making the jump to the octagon. In fact, it makes perfect sense to me. The only thing that bothers me about it is that there’s one more huge fight left for Floyd in the ring, and as far as I’m concerned, after he takes that bout he can go out on the pro arm-wrestling circuit for all I care. But RIGHT NOW is the time for Mayweather/Cotto, while Floyd is still reasonably close to his prime and Cotto is at his best. That is the most perfect “styles make fights” match-up of undefeateds that I can think of since, Christ, since Meldrick fought Chavez. I have no reservation in saying that it would be this generation’s Ali-Frazier, and as a boxing fan I literally salivate at the prospect.

And yet I fear it is never going to happen, or if it does, it will happen in three years, when the skills have deteriorated and the excuses are rampant and we are all left to watch and wonder what might have been if only it had gone down when it should have gone down. Of course, Floyd’s rationale for ducking the fight is clear to me and anyone paying attention. Cotto is a punishing fighter of great skill and force who does not have anywhere near the drawing power of Floyd’s previous two opponents. It won’t be the marquee mega-event that he has become accustomed to, and he very well might lose.

A jump to MMA, on the other hand, is almost guaranteed to be a stratospheric spectacle. Cuban evidently is talking 30 mill cash money for Floyd’s MMA debut, and if indeed Money’s just got money on his mind, well, get ready octagon, cause here comes Money May.

But beyond the interminable Onslaught of Bling, there has been another recurrent strain to Floyd’s self-promotional hype machine over the last few years, and that is a desire to claim for himself the mantle of the greatest boxer ever. It’s a preposterous boast, something that is unachievable really to a fighter in this day and age when one considers the accomplishment of, say, a Sugar Ray Robinson (let alone a Kid Gavilan). But nevertheless, I want you to listen to me Floyd, because you need to get this straight right now while you are weighing your various options. If your place in the history of the sweet science occupies even a tiny part of your diamond-encrusted mind, you should be persuaded in no uncertain terms of a single, undeniable fact: There is a boxer on the scene right now who is undefeated, who has a legitimate claim to the welterweight crown, and who will give you the fight of your life, a fight that will make your Ricky Hatton square dance look like the glorified sparring session that we both know it was. In short, if you duck this fight, Floyd, true boxing fans will know exactly why you did it – you were afraid to get hurt, and you were afraid to lose. It’s your prerogative, of course, but it’s not exactly the path to all-time greatness.

(p.s. – For all of you Franchise fans out there, I just received news from him that No Mas should be receiving his thoughts on the Floyd/Octagon question before the day is out. Stay tuned…)

3 Responses to “The Final Frontier”

  1. Anonymous Says:

    I must say I’m a little annoyed by this, but I think is just about getting Cuban and Mayweather’s name in the papers. Unless Cuban really just wants to spend his own money there is just no way that Floyd would go into a sport where the top money guys make a tenth of his last two purses. In addition, Floyd’s hands are already screwed up, now he’s going to fight with four ounce gloves. Also, Do they even have weight classes in MMA as small as Welterweight? I Don’t follow it that closely but I never see guys Floyd’s size, and even if there are a couple his size nobody has ever heard of them.

    In short, it’s just not going to happen. Here’s my theory about the whole thing. Cuban is trying to get into MMA and this gives him some juice. It smacks of his type of self-promotion more even than Floyd’s. Floyd is always trying to make himself more appealing, thus retiring after nearly every fight. He makes a little noise over the next six months, keeps the people salivating, and gets the HBO crew to build Cotto into a monster. Cotto takes a couple fights, gets even bigger and then in the fall we get the superfight.

    Floyd is NOT scared of Cotto, he’s not scared of anyone, he just wants to get as much money as possible which is his prerogative. I just hope Cotto keeps up his end of the bargain; fights Clottey and Margarito and beats them bad. I hope he doesn’t fight Hoya, who I think would be pick’em to win that fight.

    Cotto beats Clottey and Margarito and then the HBO boys break the bank for Floyd, he gets a guaranteed 20 mill and he’s back in the ring. I really don’t think there will be a switcher among the elites fighters any time soon, theres just too much money in Boxing, and any switcher would have to come along slow, start with journeyman before he got to an elite MMA guy. Who’s gonna go through all that. Certainly not Floyd now that he finally made it to the mountaintop.

  2. Large Says:

    Excellent analysis as always Anon, presuming you are the same Anonymous that I think you are (and if you, yo yo, how about throwing your name into the ring?). Check out Franchise’s post about the issue and I think you’ll dig a lot of what he has to say.

    I do think Floyd is decidedly uninterested in fighting Cotto for reasons of self and undefeated preservation. You’d have to be crazy right now to think that you could escape a bout with Cotto without taking incurring some heavy collateral damage, and I don’t think Floyd is too into getting banged at this stage of his career. I don’t think he’s waiting for the right moment – I think he wants it to go away.

  3. Luke the Duke Says:

    I don’t think Money is scared of Cotto. I do agree that Cotto needs more juice in the mainstream for it to be a superfight.

    Any chance Money would let the fight take place in MSG? Cotto seems to have claimed the Garden, it would be a great venue for a fight like this.

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